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I really don't think I wanna watch the Oscars again. Crash?? Crash???? What planet is the academy on? I couldn't believe it was even nominated.

Date: 2006-03-06 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenthecroccy.livejournal.com
what were you hoping for? :)

me? I was surprised by Crash's win, but not upset by the win. I actually dragged my butt to the movies alone to see that one and was moved by it. I know I'm in the minority, but eh :)

I thought for sure it'd be Brokeback, however.

Date: 2006-03-06 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixiecrinkle.livejournal.com
I thought is would be Brokeback, and would have been pleased with tht. I wanted it to be Walk the Line, despite its lack of nomination.

I was seriously upset that I paid money to see Crash, and I saw it at the cheap theatre. At the end of the movie, my friend's husband and I looked at each other and said, "Racism is bad. Yeah, we knew that going in." I really thought it was so poorly written that there were points that I thought were almost embarrassing to watch, because the dialogue was so poor.

So I'm intrigued, because I don't know anyone (besides the friends I saw it with) who had that reaction to that film. In fact, a friend of mine from work was seriously shocked that I hated it. And then it goes on to win best screenplay and best picture, so maybe I missed something. I'm willing to blame it on my mood at the time or something. It's just puzzling to me.

Date: 2006-03-06 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenthecroccy.livejournal.com
I did enjoy Crash a fair bit. A lot of people I know didn't like how it made them feel. My mother said I'd like the movie but it made her uncomfortable, her late fiance was upset by the over the top portrayal of racism -- racism, he thought, was more underhanded and less obvious, in his experience. Ivy thought I should see it because I am white and don't "get" racism.

I am just now having this conversation via IM with [livejournal.com profile] kat_yrn and she agrees with me -- I say it was heavy handed and even a bit forced, but it needed to be in order to make its point. If it skirted the issue of racism, and, according to mom's late fiance, as insidious as he experienced in daily life.

Date: 2006-03-06 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pixiecrinkle.livejournal.com
That's interesting to me, because I didn't think it was *that* over the top from the standpoint of the actual events. I've witnessed things close enough to some of the events in the film (I grew up in a very small town in rural Ohio which is probably 98.9% white). But even still, I didn't feel like the film made me feel much of anything because the characters seemed so much like shells of people. Maybe that's what would have made it a better film for me--flesh out the individual characters more within these situations. I don't know. I wish I did, because then maybe I'd be a screenwriter. :-)

Date: 2006-03-06 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karenthecroccy.livejournal.com
You know what? It was just that that allowed me to identify with every single character in one way or another though, and if the characters were fleshed out too much, you'd lose that possibility.

I know that I didn't like to identify with Sandra Bullock's character, especially with the outburst over the changing of the locks, but then when she hurt herself and needed friends and couldn't find anyone ... wow, yeah, I felt that. But I already decided that she was a horrid person, yet I felt compassion for her and I didn't like it. I was then willing to reconsider my reaction to her because we were able to see into her life a bit and maybe figure out WHY she reacted the way she did ... and was she justified in all her fear?

Perhaps the biggest accomplishment with Crash though is that it really opened up dialogue on a touchy subject.

Date: 2006-03-06 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seriesfinale.livejournal.com
But I already decided that she was a horrid person

Well, the problem is nobody in that movie was a "person"...they were all barely sketched-in sterotypes.

Date: 2006-03-06 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaptal.livejournal.com
That's exactly what my problem was with Crash. No one was well drawn out. The actors did the best with the script they were given.

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